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About Amy

I am interested in genealogy and family research, books, movies, cats, dogs, and baseball.

How This Started

I’ve been asked what got me started on doing this research.  I’d like to claim some life-changing event or spiritual moment got me started, but to be honest, it was a television program, Who Do You Think You Are.  That program showed celebrities researching and learning about their ancestors, and as I saw how moved these people were learning about an ancestor they’d never met, I decided that I wanted to learn more myself. 

I started by joining ancestry.com and made a lot of progress with my paternal side, but very little on my maternal side.  I hit a wall and put it all aside, figuring I’d never find more.  Then this past summer I received an email from someone who’d seen my ancestry tree and thought we might be related through my maternal grandfather, Isadore Goldschlager.  My interest was sparked again, and that contact gave me a contact in Romania who was able to find documents about my grandparents and great-grandparents, including the name of my great-great-grandparents, names my mother had not known.  The fact that my great-great-grandfather was named Ira, the same name as my brother, even though my mother had never known her great-grandfather’s name, gave me the chills and made me realize how rich and rewarding this research and these discoveries could be.

So I turned to the Brotman side, and this time I turned to third parties for help, asking questions on ancestry.com, geni, JewishGen, anywhere I could.  I learned how to find and order birth, marriage and death certificates and other documents, and one of my mentors found the obituary of Renee Haber, which was how I found David Ruzicka. I also found David Haber through ancestry.com, and he helped me find Judy.  Someone on JewishGen/GesherGalicia contacted Bruce Brotman in response to my inquiry, and slowly but surely the pieces came together.  It wasn’t until then that I realized that there was a brother named Max; my mother only remembered the names Hyman, Tilly, Frieda and Sam.  Yet she remembered Renee and Rosalie, thinking they were Hyman’s daughters, so I knew I had the right people.  And then my brother found Abraham’s naturalization papers with Max’s name on them.  When I was able to confirm by the address that it was the same Max, the hunt to verify that Abraham was another brother began.

There have been so many dead ends and false starts, but also so many amazing moments on this journey so far. I have encountered so many kind and generous people—not only the Brotman cousins themselves, but the helpers on the other sites and the man who volunteered to go to Mt Zion cemetery to take pictures of Joseph and Abraham’s headstones (and then also took those of Abraham’s wife and son Joseph on his own, just to be nice). 

I am not done. There are still many unanswered questions. Most importantly, I am still trying to find out where our family came from in Galicia and what their lives were like there. 

So stay tuned…who knows what and who else I will find? 

 

A simple and righteous man: Our great-grandfather

Aside

Below are two photos, one of Joseph’s headstone, one of his footstone.  (I did not take these; a very kind stranger volunteered to do so.  I do, however, plan to visit the grave next weekend.)  Although I don’t know much Hebrew, using a translator program I think that the headstone says, “Here lies a Simple and righteous man, Our beloved father Yosef Yaakov ben Avraham, Deceased [Hebrew date].”

The footstone inscription is longer and harder to translate, but I think that it says something like, “Here lies a simple man who woke and toiled doing crushing work in order to support his home, to see and satisfy a dream as a gift to other people,  Yosef Yaakov ben Avraham, Deceased  [Hebrew date].

Like I said, I relied on a translation program, so I am using some poetic license to put this into English.  If there is anyone who has any fluency in Hebrew, please correct me!!

Edited: After consulting with a rabbi and working at this again, I think the footstone says, “Here lies a simple man who toiled doing crushing work to support his home and rejoiced in pleasing others.”

At any rate, I found the inscriptions very touching.  At the very least we know his family saw him as a plain, hardworking man who worked to support his home and provide for their dreams in the new world.

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Evidence that our families once were in touch!

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Evidence that our families once were in touch!

Isadore and Gussie Goldschlager, Philip and Elaine Lehrbaum and Maurice and Lynn Goldschlager at Bruce Brotman’s bar mitzvah in 1957. It’s such a shame that they all lost touch. So glad we managed to find each other again!

Thanks for the feedback!

Thanks to all for the feedback and for the new pictures, corrections, and information.  I am trying to keep up with it, but if I forget, please remind me.

A few things: I am trying to be sensitive to privacy concerns.  For example, I wasn’t sure people wanted me to list their birthdays, spouse’s names, or other identifying information about anyone living.  Thus, I deleted all the information and only listed first names of the children and most of the living descendants.

Instead of the document that had included a lot of that information, I have posted a set of family trees.  You can find them if you click on Joseph’s Descendants: Family Trees.  These were not created by me directly, but by software that works with ancestry.com  Although I can fix errors in names and add and delete people through the ancestry.com site, I cannot rearrange people on the trees.  I know some of it is odd: first husbands listed after second husbands, for example.  Not my fault! So I can either leave the trees or delete them.  I can either leave the information on the pages incomplete or add every bit of information you want.  But I won’t do it unless you tell me you want me to.  

One more tip: click on the photos to zoom in and even zoom in again.  It’s great to be able to see old photos that were 3 inches or so enlarged enough to see more clearly.

That’s it for now.  Thanks again for your feedback.

Amy

What’s here, what’s new, what’s next

First, thank you, Judy, for setting up the blog and putting up with all my confusion and questions as I struggled to figure out how to post pictures, text and documents here.  I still am not very good at this, and I am still trying to figure out how to move pictures around and to make things look better, but I decided that if I wait until it is perfect, no one will ever see it.

The blog is organized into separate pages: one for Joseph and Bessie and their story, documents and pictures, and then separate pages for each of the children we know of to this point: Max. Herman, Tilly, Gussie, Frieda and Sam.  On each page there are pictures and documents relating to that child and his/her descendants.  Obviously, I have the most pictures of Gussie’s line, but I am hoping that the rest of you will supply pictures of your grandparents, parents, siblings, children, etc.  I haven’t finished posting all I have for Gussie, but I wanted to get this out.

As for what’s next, I am still working to find out the name of the towns where Joseph and Bessie came from.  We know that they were cousins and likely did not live in the same town, but aside from one reference on Herman’s naturalization application to “Jeekief,” we have no information about where they lived in Galicia.

I also am still trying to determine whether we have a direct relation to the Brotmans of Brotmanville, NJ, or to Abraham Brotman of Brooklyn, for whom Max was the witness on his naturalization papers.

I have tried to protect the privacy of anyone living, so I have left it to you to identify your birthdates, your spouses, your children, grandchildren, etc., more specifically than I have.

Please give feedback! You can post comments or you can email me or Judy directly if you have pictures or documents to post.

ENJOY! I will post more about my research and what this process has been like for me.  I also still hope to meet some of my long lost cousins some time before too long.

Amy