Betty Goldschlager and Her Daughters Frieda and Estelle: FOUND!

Betty Goldschlager

Betty Goldschlager

I have written about my grandfather’s younger sister, my great-aunt Betty, and her experiences arriving in New York City the day after her father had died of tuberculosis.  But until now I knew very little about her life after those early days.  I knew that she had married Isidor Feuerstein, had two daughters Frieda and Estelle, and had moved to Long Island, where Isidor had a dry goods business near Levittown.  Most of that I knew from my mother, who has clear memories of her aunt, uncle and cousins visiting her in Brooklyn when she was growing up.  My mother commented on what an astute businessman Isidor must have been to have opened a business near Levittown when it was a new community.  She also remembered that her two cousins were beautiful young women, described by my grandfather as Romanian princesses.

But that was all I knew.  My mother thought that Betty and her daughters had all moved out west at some point, and she had lost touch with them long ago.  My search for them turned up a few details—a death certificate for Betty from Phoenix, AZ, census reports from 1930 and 1940, but little else.  Then several months ago, I thought I had a hot lead.  I located a great-nephew of Isidor Feuerstein on ancestry.com, and he knew that Frieda had married a man named Abe Albert and even had a wedding picture of her as well as one taken several years after the wedding.  He believed that Frieda had a daughter named Gail, but was not sure.  He knew that Estelle had married a man named Kenner with a first name that started with I, but did not know whether she had had any children.  He did not know whether either Frieda or Estelle was alive or where they might be living.

Feuerstein Family (Betty at far left)

Feuerstein Family (Betty at far left)

With that new information, I started searching again, and although I was able to locate an Estelle Kenner living in Pembroke Pines, FL, I had no way to be sure that this was the same Estelle.  I could find no real evidence of Frieda.  I searched as many different ways and as many different places as I could, but kept hitting that proverbial brick wall.  So I moved on, focused on David, Isadore, the Strolowitz family, the Schwartz family, etc.

Then the other night I mentioned to Renee (my friend and mentor) in an email that I was still searching for my mother’s two first cousins, Frieda and Estelle.  I woke up the next morning, and there in my Inbox was an email from Renee providing me with Estelle’s wedding announcement, her husband’s obituary, and the names of their three children.  So after months and months of finding nothing on my own, Renee in one evening had solved one of my most frustrating searches.  How did she do it? She had access to yet another database that I was not aware of—something called ProQuest available at certain libraries.

So I was off and running, finding the three Kenner children on Facebook and sending each a message about my research.  Within five minutes, Barry Kenner sent me back a message, and we then spent over an hour on the phone, exchanging information and getting to know each other.  He also gave me contact information for Frieda’s daughter Gayle, and I have now had several email exchanges with her as well.  There is still a lot to learn and more photos and documents to share, but I have answers to many of my unanswered questions.  I have also had an email from Barry’s sister Robyn and hope to hear from his other sister Karyn.  I have lots of new names to add to the Goldschlager family tree and am awaiting more photographs and information about my family.

Betty Goldschlager 1969

Betty Goldschlager 1969

First, Frieda and Estelle are both still alive.  Frieda lives in Arizona, and Estelle in Florida.  Both of their husbands ended up in the same fabric importing business as Isidor Feuerstein.  Irving Kenner had taken over the Long Island business, and Abe Albert started his own business in Arizona.  Frieda and Estelle each had three children—two sons and a daughter for Frieda, two daughters and a son for Estelle.  There are also many grandchildren and great-grandchildren descended from Betty and Isidor.

Frieda and Abe Albert at their wedding in 1943

Frieda and Abe Albert at their wedding in 1943

I have already learned a few interesting facts that I did not know before.  Gayle told me that her grandmother was very proud of her father Moritz, who she said was very dapper and a lamplighter for the theater. She said that there was even a story that before he married, he had run away to the circus!  That gave me an entirely new perspective on Moritz and his life.  Remember he is my great-grandfather who was an orphan by age six.  I had wondered whether he had experienced any happiness in his life. I thought he lit street lamps  This little snippet—a daughter’s memory of him as dapper and of being proud of his occupation, of a man who loved the circus and the theater—gave me a whole new insight into who my great-grandfather was.  Even better, she later sent me a photograph of Moritz.  Just the other day I wrote that I would never see a picture of him or know what he looked like.  Never say never!  Here he is:

Moritz Goldschlager

Moritz Goldschlager

I assume this was taken in Iasi, not New York.  I can see why Betty described her father as dapper. His clothing, his watch chain, the stance, the mustache, the furniture behind him—all this gives me a far different impression of the man who was my great-grandfather than I had imagined.  Somehow I saw him as a peddler, a poor immigrant, because that was what he was in New York, but perhaps their life in Iasi was far more comfortable than I had assumed.

Gayle also said that her grandmother talked about having a tall brother whom she referred to as Uncle Gadalia.  I told her that that must have been David, since Isadore was not tall at all.  She also remembered that she had met David’s son Murray and his wife when they came to Phoenix from Tucson for her brother’s bar mitzvah, but that they lost touch after that.

Barry recalled visiting his grandmother on Long Island and her house with the grand entry staircase that they would slide down as children, using her silk pillows as seats.  He described Betty as a sweet and petite woman whom he recalls making them mashed potatoes with chicken fat instead of butter.  It’s amazing how little stories, little memories can bring alive someone whom I never knew.  Barry shared this picture of the Feuerstein family at his parents’ wedding in 1951.

Betty, Irving's mother, Irving's sister-in law, Frieda, Estelle, Irving, Irving's brother, Abe Albert, and Isidor Feuerstein at Estelle and Irving's wedding

Betty, Irving’s mother, Irving’s sister-in law, Frieda, Estelle, Irving, Irving’s brother, Abe Albert, and Isidor Feuerstein at Estelle and Irving’s wedding

Estelle Feuerstein, Betty's daughter

Estelle Feuerstein, Betty’s daughter

Estelle and Irving KennerEstelle and Irving Kenner 1951

The photos on this page are a combination of the few photos I had of

Frieda and Abe Albert at their wedding in 1943

Frieda and Abe Albert at their wedding in 1943

Betty, Isidor and their daughters and some pictures that Barry shared with me through his Facebook page and some that Gayle sent me.  I am excited to see others and to learn more about these newly discovered cousins.

Frieda and Abe

Frieda and Abe

Estelle

Estelle

Estelle's children Barry Robyn and Karyn 1963Estelle’s children Barry Robyn and Karyn 1963

Frieda and her children Robert, Gayle and Richard

Frieda and her children Robert, Gayle and Richard

Barry Kenner's family

Barry Kenner’s family

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Crowd Sourced Genealogy

In yesterday’s New York Times, A.J. Jacobs wrote a mostly facetious article about the phenomenon of crowd sourced genealogy, “Are You My Cousin?”  Crowd sourced genealogy refers to the practice used by some people doing family research where on websites like Geni a researcher can link his or her tree with other trees once a

Image representing Geni as depicted in CrunchBase

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common relative is found.  As Jacobs points out, many experienced genealogists have expressed concern about this practice because the trees that are being connected may not be well-researched or accurate.  As a result, people end up incorporating those mistakes into their own trees, and then those mistakes can be repeated over and over again as new people begin linking to these inaccurate trees.

Although ancestry.com is not set up like Geni to promote the idea of one World Family Tree, their site also allows researchers to view other family trees which list people with the same names and dates as those on their own tree.  When I first started using ancestry.com, I relied on this tool to add names to my family tree on my father’s side.  I soon, however, realized that it was a dangerous practice.  I thought I had found some English cousins because we shared a relative named Boomer Cohen.  I contacted them and was very excited—only to be very disappointed and embarrassed when I learned that their Boomer Cohen was not the same as my Boomer Cohen.  Who would have thought there were two women with that name?

I’ve run into other problems with relying on the family trees I find on ancestry.com.  Often trees were created without any documentation, so I can’t double-check to be sure they are accurate.  When I was researching Harry Coopersmith, my great-aunt Frieda’s husband, I found Harry on a tree with parents who did not match the parents I had found after research and with documentation.  It had Harry’s children correctly and his birth and death dates, but the wrong parents.  I contacted the tree owner, Harry’s grandson, and asked him about it because I assumed he was right and I was wrong.  But it turned out he had linked to someone else’s tree with a different Harry Coopersmith and assumed it was his grandfather.  He was very happy (and probably embarrassed) when I was able to provide him with the correct information and the documents to back it up.

As a result, I am very skeptical of sites like Geni and the whole notion of crowd sourced genealogy.  Not that I have stopped looking at those other trees on ancestry—I always do, and I have found many helpful people by doing so.  For example, I found Becky Schwartz Goldschlager’s nephew Jon by finding his family tree on ancestry.  But I have learned to use these trees very carefully.  In fact, when I return to researching my father’s family lines, I will need to go back and pare some limbs from those trees unless and until I can find documentation to back them up.

Jacobs also expressed skepticism, but seems to be overall in favor of crowd sourced genealogy.  As I said, his article is mostly facetious, pointing out the ridiculously long and convoluted paths that connected him to Albert Einstein and Gwynneth Paltrow, among others.  Although the idea of finding hundreds of celebrities and famous people to whom I have some very attenuated connection is somewhat intriguing, it’s not what I am after by engaging in genealogy research.  I want to know more about my real ancestors — who they were, where they lived, and how they lived.  I don’t need to know my great-great-uncle’s wife’s brother’s daughter’s husband’s cousin’s mother’s stepfather was Abraham Lincoln.  What good would that do me?

English: Abraham Lincoln, the sixteenth Presid...

English: Abraham Lincoln, the sixteenth President of the United States. Latviešu: Abrahams Linkolns, sešpadsmitais ASV prezidents. Српски / Srpski: Абрахам Линколн, шеснаести председник Сједињених Америчких Држава. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

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The Stories behind a Photograph

No real time to write this weekend, so I thought I would just post one more of the pictures that Robin sent.  I don’t know when this was taken, and it was a great surprise to realize that there was a photograph of my mother that I had never seen.  I’d love to know more about the picture. It looks like a formal photograph, but it’s not a school photograph because I have seen her high school graduation photograph. So when was it taken? Why was she sitting for a formal photograph? What is the necklace she is wearing?  I will have to ask her when I speak to her.  But it’s a fascinating photograph.  It captures her in so many ways that I know so well, but also sheds a new light that is different from other pictures I’ve seen before.  That’s what makes photographs so interesting—they let you see someone at a particular moment in time, a moment when perhaps you didn’t know them, and let you see who they were then as well as who they are now.

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